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NinjaTrader and Evaluation Accounts: What You Need to Know
Trading has become easier and more exciting thanks to new technology and tools. One cool way to get started is with NinjaTrader 8, a popular trading platform, and evaluation accounts. Let's break down what these are and why they work so well together.
A lot of funded or evaluation services use NinjaTrader 8 so we're going to discuss the pro's and con's of using funded accounts.
NinjaTrader 8 - The Most Popular Funded Charting Program?
NinjaTrader 8 is a powerful trading software that is probably used by most funded and evaluation accounts. It's specifically designed to help you buy and sell various investments like stocks, futures, and forex. Essentially, it’s like having a high-tech tool that not only makes trading easier but also more engaging.
Furthermore, with NinjaTrader 8, you get access to detailed charts that help you track price movements and trends. These charts can be easily customized to match your trading style, ensuring that you can see the information you need in a way that makes the most sense to you.
Moreover, the software is also built for speed. When you place a trade, NinjaTrader 8 processes it quickly, which is crucial if you’re actively trading and need to make decisions fast.
Another great feature of NinjaTrader 8 is that you can set it up exactly how you want. Whether you prefer a specific layout or need multiple screens to keep track of everything, you can easily adjust the interface to fit your needs.
Additionally, NinjaTrader 8 keeps you connected with live market data, so you always know what’s happening in real-time. It seamlessly works with a range of brokers and handles various types of trades, making it a flexible option for different trading strategies.
For those who are particularly interested in automated trading, its supported programming and scripting language offers the necessary tools to create and test trading strategies with trading robots.
On top of that, the platform also helps you manage risk by providing tools to set stop-loss orders and monitor your trades as they happen.
Plus, if you’re looking to learn more, NinjaTrader 8 offers plenty of resources. There are guides, videos, and an active community of traders to support you as you develop your skills and knowledge.
In short, the platform is not only versatile but also user-friendly, providing everything you need to trade efficiently and effectively.
Furthermore, with NinjaTrader 8, you get access to detailed charts that help you track price movements and trends. These charts can be easily customized to match your trading style, ensuring that you can see the information you need in a way that makes the most sense to you.
Moreover, the software is also built for speed. When you place a trade, NinjaTrader 8 processes it quickly, which is crucial if you’re actively trading and need to make decisions fast.
Another great feature of NinjaTrader 8 is that you can set it up exactly how you want. Whether you prefer a specific layout or need multiple screens to keep track of everything, you can easily adjust the interface to fit your needs.
Additionally, NinjaTrader 8 keeps you connected with live market data, so you always know what’s happening in real-time. It seamlessly works with a range of brokers and handles various types of trades, making it a flexible option for different trading strategies.
For those who are particularly interested in automated trading, its supported programming and scripting language offers the necessary tools to create and test trading strategies with trading robots.
On top of that, the platform also helps you manage risk by providing tools to set stop-loss orders and monitor your trades as they happen.
Plus, if you’re looking to learn more, NinjaTrader 8 offers plenty of resources. There are guides, videos, and an active community of traders to support you as you develop your skills and knowledge.
In short, the platform is not only versatile but also user-friendly, providing everything you need to trade efficiently and effectively.
What are Evaluation Accounts?
Evaluation accounts are like a test drive for traders. Here’s how they work:
What They Do: These accounts let you show off your trading skills without using your own money. The idea is to see if you can trade well enough to get a bigger account with real money.
How It Works: You join a trading challenge where you have to meet certain goals, like making a profit or not losing too much. You follow the rules and, if you do well, you can move on to trading with a larger account.
What They Do: These accounts let you show off your trading skills without using your own money. The idea is to see if you can trade well enough to get a bigger account with real money.
How It Works: You join a trading challenge where you have to meet certain goals, like making a profit or not losing too much. You follow the rules and, if you do well, you can move on to trading with a larger account.
Why Traders Might Look At These Options?
Leverage: Traders can access more capital than they personally have, allowing them to trade larger positions and potentially earn higher returns.
Risk Management: Traders can practice risk management with someone else’s capital, reducing personal financial risk.
Skill Development: They provide an opportunity for traders to develop and hone their skills in a real trading environment without risking their own money.
Profit Sharing: The trader typically earns a percentage of the profits made from trading, which can be a significant income stream.
Risk Management: Traders can practice risk management with someone else’s capital, reducing personal financial risk.
Skill Development: They provide an opportunity for traders to develop and hone their skills in a real trading environment without risking their own money.
Profit Sharing: The trader typically earns a percentage of the profits made from trading, which can be a significant income stream.
Pro's and Con's of using Eval Accounts
Evaluation services can offer great opportunities for traders, but they may not be ideal for everyone. Here are some reasons why evaluation services might not be the best option for certain traders:
Why Evaluation Accounts Might Be A Good Option
Evaluation accounts help you prove you’re a good trader. If you do well, you might get funded to trade with more money, which can be a big step up.
Evaluation accounts help you prove you’re a good trader. If you do well, you might get funded to trade with more money, which can be a big step up.
Advanced Features: Utilizing NinjaTrader's sophisticated tools for evaluation.
Building Capital Quicker (If You're Successful): Since most traders are not successful or don't have a good strategy that also handles their risk management, getting to this point might be hard for most. So although this is a "pro", it might not be a benefit most people reach.
Cons for Using Eval Accounts
Cost Considerations: Fees associated with evaluation accounts.
Platform Limitations: Potential challenges and learning curves regarding rules around certain news events etc.
Pressure: The stress of trading under evaluation conditions.
Funding Risks: Risk of not securing funding or failing evaluations.
Platform Limitations: Potential challenges and learning curves regarding rules around certain news events etc.
Pressure: The stress of trading under evaluation conditions.
Funding Risks: Risk of not securing funding or failing evaluations.
The Hidden Costs of Trading Evaluations: What You Need to Know About Fees and Charges
Evaluation services can offer great opportunities for traders, but they may not be ideal for everyone. Here are some reasons why evaluation services might not be the best option for certain traders:
Costs and Fees
Upfront Costs: Many evaluation services require an upfront fee to participate in their programs. These fees can add up, especially if a trader doesn’t pass the evaluation on the first attempt. This can range from $100 to $1,000 or more depending on the programs complexity and the potential funding available.
Program Tiers: Some companies offer different tiers of evaluations, with higher fees for more advanced or challenging programs. For instance, a basic evaluation might cost $200, while a more comprehensive evaluation could cost $500 or more.
Performance-Based Fees: While less common, some firms charge a fee based on performance. For example, they might take a percentage of the trader’s profits if they pass the evaluation and receive funding.
Reevaluation Fees: If you don’t pass the evaluation on your first attempt, some companies charge a fee to retake the evaluation or to enter another program.
Profit Split: Although not a direct fee, it’s important to note that many evaluation services take a portion of the trader’s profits once they receive funding. This split can range from 10% to 30% or more, depending on the service.
Examples of Fees by Company
Company | Fee Range | Additional Costs | Reactivation / Reset Fee |
---|---|---|---|
TopstepTrader | $150 to $325 | Monthly fee for extended evaluation period; additional costs for higher account sizes or advanced tiers | $49 to $150 |
FTMO | $155 to $650 | Varies by account size and program | $100 to $150 |
OneUp Trader | $150 to $250 | Varies by tier and account size | $100 to $200 |
Earn2Trade | $100 to $400 | Varies by evaluation program and account size | $50 to $150 |
Apex Trader Funding | $100 to $300 | Different tiers and account sizes available | $100 to $200 |
Promotions: Any of these providers do promotions to get you to buy-in and reset sooner. I wouldn't get sucked into these promotions as they happen all the time.
How XABCD Helps Traders with Funded Accounts?
We actually have a few tool that have helped traders using funded or evaluation accounts.
XABCD ATM Pack
Our XABCD ATM Pack can be downloaded free of charge and can be used to attach orders to trades. There are a bunch of preconfigured templates that can help you with moving your stops to breakeven and protecting your risk, to splitting up orders, taking profits and providing a ton of other useful functions.
XABCD News Pro
Our XABCD News Pro software let's you put specific news events on your chart which can be helpful for funded traders because some services require you to halt trading around specific news events. This way your news events are put right onto your chart and you can have a buffer zone colored in to see when you should not be trading.
XABCD Pattern Suite
Our XABCD News Pro software let's you put specific news events on your chart which can be helpful for funded traders because some services require you to halt trading around specific news events. This way your news events are put right onto your chart and you can have a buffer zone colored in to see when you should not be trading.
Are Funded Accounts Worth It?
It depends. That's probably not going to be the answer you want - but it will depend on the trader.
30% of traders might consider it based off the study based of brokers and the number of retail traders that fail.
70% of traders shouldn't be using funded or evaluation type accounts.
If you are new to trading, or not consistently profitable, you don't need a funded or evaluation account. You'll be spending way to much money on "reset fees" and you should just be using a demo account.
You should only be using these types of accounts if you are already profitable in my opinion and not to try to learn from them (because of the fees). Many brokers are not required to disclose the percentage of their retail clients who lose money. These disclosures typically show that 70 to 90% of traders lose money. With this in mind, I would say 70 to 90% of traders probably whould be using a funded or evaulation service type account.
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